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∂04-MAR-75  0957		ACT,REG
 Yes, I saw your comments to Les.  I believe the revised proposal
 incorporates most, if not all, of your suggestions.  There are still a
 couple of things I'd like to improve.  Lick says essentially that ARPA
 doesn't want to spend any money on operating systems "unless the need is
 specific and thoroughly justified." I believe we've made a case for the
 display work, because Lick himself already believes in it to some extent.
 I feel the file system thing is a little shakey.  I'd like to firm it up
 by adding more arguments in its favor (I've already added examples of
 why the present schemes are inadequate and that some of the MULTICS work
 is relevant so we don't have to reinvent things) but I feel there's a
 lack of conviction that the proposal is "thoroughly justified."

∂03-MAR-75  2044		ACT,REG
 A draft of the revised proposal is PROP75.A[DOC,REG].  I welcome your comments.

∂03-MAR-75  1942		1,BH
 In RCV, typing "C ?" or "T ?" to an option request will tell you the name
 of the current output file and allow you to specify another.


∂3-MAR-75  1154		network site AI
 Date: 3 MAR 1975 1457-EST
 From: PHW at MIT-AI
 To: jmc at SU-AI, les at SU-AI, minsky at MIT-AI
 
 Hi,
 I have not received your vote for the C&T lecture and I need them
 desparately.  Could you please rank the following and return via
 the net immediately.
 
 bobrow
 buchanan
 clowes
 fikes
 goldstein
 green
 hayes
 papert
 reddy
 reiger
 sacerdoti
 sandewall
 schank
 siklossy
 sussman
 wegbreit
 wilks
 woods

∂03-MAR-75  0956		1,MG
 Subject: Richard Waldinger talks at PARC today. 
 
 The meeting  is at Xerox  PARC today at  3:30 p.m. Richard  will talk
 about his recent work on achieving several goals simultaneously. 
 
 Mike. 
 
 P.S. We still need a volunteer for next time. 

∂28-FEB-75  1119		S,WD
 	The proposal is LISP.PRO[WD,JMC].  I believe Patte will have left a
 copy on you desk.

∂27-FEB-75  1146		L,FWH
 Subject: What Richard will talk about at next discussion group meeting. 
 
 At the next meeting  (3:30 on 3 mar. at PARC)  Richard Waldinger will
 describe   his  recent   work  on  how   to  achieve   several  goals
 simultaneously.  He'll illustrate his methods by showing how they can
 be used  to generate a  program for  interchanging the values  of two
 variables. 
 
 MG


∂1-MAR-75  1711		network site SRI
 Date:  1 MAR 1975 1718-PDT
 From: BOYER at SRI-AI
 Subject: AI FORUM - Delegate safety at IJCAI4
 To:   sigart at CMU-10B
 cc:   erik at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI
 
 
 IJCAI4
 FROM: Vesko Marinov
 IMSSS, Stanford University				March 1, 1975
 Stanford, CA94304
 
 
 	The safety of the delegates to an international scientific
 conference is, in my opinion, essential for the normal conduct of the
 conference.  Furthermore it is important for the success of a 
 conference that anybody qualified and wishing to attend should feel free
 to do so.
 	I welcome the choice of Tbilisi as the site of IJCAI4, but only
 under the condition that all prospective delegates should feel safe
 to attend.  However, there are reasons to believe that the safety of
 some delegates, particularly those of East European origin, may be
 jeopardized by going to Tbilisi.  
 	Therefore I suggest that the organizing committee, including
 the Soviet organizers, coordinate opinions with the Soviet authorities
 and issue an oficial statement guaranteeing the safe attendance of
 all delegates.  I appeal for the support of the AI community in obtaining
 such a guarantee.
 
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∂01-MAR-75  1706		REP,DEW
 There's a finished copy of my paper on your desk.  Please throw the old
 one away as soon as possible since it had some errors in it thathave been corrented
 .  Also the last example is the most instructive one.  I would like
 suggestions again on what to do next.   Dave

∂01-MAR-75  1320		1,ELF
 I AM NOW TO DAMN SCARED TO TALK TO YOU AND IM GETTING SICK OF IT

∂28-FEB-75  1659		2,JH
 My contribution to expanding news75.pro is on [2,jh].  The expanded parts
 are mostly on the area of man-machine interaction. Jim

∂28-FEB-75  0615		network site ISI
 Date: 28 FEB 1975 0614-PDT
 From: CARLSTROM at USC-ISI
 Subject: IU WORKSHOP
 To:   JMC at SU-AI
 cc:   CARLSTROM
 
 THANKS FOR YOUR NOTE.  I'VE TALKED WITH BINFOORD ON THE PHONE  AND
 I THINK EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE.
 
 REGARDS,
 DAVE C.
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∂27-FEB-75  1537		PNT,DCL
 YES-MARCH 11 AND 13 ARE FINE. WHAT IS THE ROOM NO. OF YOUR CLASS?

∂27-FEB-75  0808		E,ALS
 The trouble is with the MAIL-E interface in that MAIL does not pass on to E
 the information that E needs. I Will look into it however and see if I can
 get it fixed.	ALS


∂26-FEB-75  1355		1,MG
 Subject: Next meeting of discussion group
 
 The next meeting, at which Richard Waldinger  will talk, is on monday
 3 march at 3:30 p.m.in PARC. 
 
 After  that we run out  of volunteers. Would anyone  like to describe
 what they  have been  up to  lately or  what  their current  problems
 and/or unimplemented future plans are? 
 
 Mike

∂26-FEB-75  1337		THE,AJT
 since you appear to be leaving on the 7th., it is essential
 that you let me know whether you can make it to my committee
 meeting on Wed. 6th. provisionally at 2:00. please let me know
 a.

∂25-FEB-75  1631		NS,ME
 I looked at the proposal again but have no suggestions.
 I'll be gone till Friday night.

∂24-FEB-75  1515		THE,AJT
 Hintikka can't come(aaarrrgh!) to the Thursday meeting. Other possible
 times are: any day next week in the morning, or between 2 and 4. Let me
 know a possibility list and I'll try to achieve a magical correlation with
 other people's.
 sorry about all this... arthur.

∂24-FEB-75  1211		1,QIB
 TENTATIVE:  A.I. SCIENCE LUNCHEON WITH LEDERBERG, FACULTY CLUB, 12:00,
 MARCH 10 - MAY I CONFIRM?

∂24-FEB-75  1206		1,QIB
 REMINDER:  TAXI WILL PICK YOU UP AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE FACULTY
 CLUB AT 1:00 TO TAKE YOU TO THE AIRPORT - 2-25 (TUESDAY).
 
 PROF. FEIGENBAUM NEEDS A COPY OF THE LETTER ON THE ARPA PRINCIPLE
 INVESTIGATORS MEETING IN MARCH.
 

∂24-FEB-75  1152		VCG,DCL
 Were we supposed to meet today (Mon. Feb-24) to continue?
␈ CC: JMC;TOB;RWW;TW;DCL

∂23-FEB-75  2224		1,DBX
 I have put a copy of my write-up on recursion to your desk. I hope it
 is more or less correct now. We are going to discuss it with Richard
 and Bill to-morrow and I hope we can talk on Friday, which will be my
 last day here.

∂23-FEB-75  0055		S,LES
 It is now Sunday Morning and I still have not received any contributions
 for the ARPA PI Meeting Summary, except for one written by Brian McCune
 on behalf of Cordell.  I should be pissed off, but it is hard to get
 worked up when this kind of performance has become standard.
 
 I have hacked something together in ARPAPI.75 [D,LES].  It is mainly the
 list of bullets that I compiled several months ago.  Perhaps if you show
 it to them they will be moved to write something more up-to-date.
 
 According to the Meeting Announcement, we were supposed to send it to
 FEINLER @ NIC by last Thursday.  Hopefully, it will happen early this
 week.
 
 I will try to check in by phone on Tuesday, or sooner if there is a
 phone at the place where we are staying.

∂21-FEB-75  1811		network site SRI
 Date: 21 FEB 1975 1811-PST
 From: BOYER at SRI-AI
 Subject: scientism
 To:   jmc at SU-AI
 
 I wonder if there is still a plan for a meeting tonight at
 your house on the subject of a bay area scientism club.
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∂11-FEB-75  1225		1,MG
 John Darlington (a collegue of Rod Burstall who's at present visiting
 IBM Yorktown  Heights) would like to visit Stanford  and SRI in a few
 months time.  Richard Waldinger tells me that SRI can only offer $150
 and as this  won't cover the cost was wondering  whether Stanford had
 any money available which could be combined with the above to produce
 a reasonable sum. 
 
 Mike. 


∂08-FEB-75  1719		1,SGK
 Call David McQueen 513-8787295 office 255-3098. Feferman has folder.


∂11-FEB-75  1231		network site ISIA
 Date: 11 FEB 1975 1229-PST
 From: NBS at USC-ISIA
 Subject: TIMESHARING COOP
 To:   JMC at SU-AI
 cc:   NBS
 
 DEAR DR. MCCARTHY,
 
      IREAD A COPY OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TIMESHARING COOP,
 AND IT SOUNDS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.  THEREFORE I WOULD
 
 BE WILLING TO AND INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT IT WITH
 OTHER PEOPLE, AND IN HELPING TO SET IT UP.
 
      I AM AN UNDERGRAD AT STANFORD, AND HAVE A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND
 
 IN COMPUTING.
 
 I CAN BE REACHED VIA THE FOLLOWING:
 
 ARPA-NET       NBS@ISI   (PLEASE START MESSAGE WITH "FOR ED FRANK"
 
 SLAC-TRIPLEX   SUGGEST TO EHF$EA
 
 UNCLE SAM
 LETTER SINK     ED FRANK
                P.O BOX 2008
                STANFORD, CA
 
 MA BELL        415-321-6143
 
                 SINCERELY,
                 ED FRANK
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∂11-FEB-75  1407		DOC,TOB
 There are two positive contributions by
 Don Gennery.  As a course project, he made
 a search for calibration solution that was
 successful, where Hannah had been unsuccessful
 before.  At SRI, he made a horizontal 
 rectangle bounder; JMT's opinion is that he
 did a good job.  That he had good ideas, was
 competent and a good executor, hard worker.
 Along the lines of Perkins, not a deep thinker
 but reasonable and competent.
 There is of course the negative information
 about not working his first year here.
 Tom


∂08-FEB-75  0139		100,100: sgk @ SAIL
 Have invited Schroeppel & c. to stay here the nite of the 22nd.  Say if OK soon pls.


∂05-FEB-75  1503		100,100: S/WD @ SAIL
 	I don't know if you found the note.  Telco was here about the phone problem
 while you were away and claims that you need an interface for you Phonemate.


∂05-FEB-75  1415		1,ELF
 READ MADMAD.MAD LAST PART[1,ELF]


∂05-FEB-75  1132		1,MG
 Subject: Change of time or place of meeting. 
 
 I've just  discovered that  the conference  room at  SU-AI is  booked
 every monday between  4:15 and 5:15. Thus either the time or place of
 the next meeting of  the program reasoning  group must be changed.  I
 propose that it be moved to tuesday  18 feb. (the day after it was to
 be).  Please let me know if  this is O.K. If  it isn't maybe we could
 still have the meeting on monday but at SRI or PARC? 
 
 I'll confirm the new time and place in a day or so. 
 
 Sorry about this. Mike


∂04-FEB-75  1202		P,JRA
 cs206?

∂04-FEB-75  1137		1,MG
 Subject: Future meetings of Program Reasoning Group. 
 
 The next meeting is  in the conference room at Stanford  A.I. Lab. at
 3.30  p.m.  on mon.  17 feb. Balint Domolki  (who's visiting the  A.I.
 Lab. from Hungary) will talk. 
 
 The meeting following that will be at Xerox PARC at 3.30 p.m. on mon.
 3 march.  Richard Waldinger will talk. 
 
 The debate described in previous  messages (which was conceived of by
 Bob.  Boyer)  is  to be  organanised  by  Richard  Waldinger. Further
 suggestions concerning it should be sent to Richard at SRI. 
 
 Sorry about the  vast list of names  that non-SU-AI people have  been
 getting at  the top of  previous messages -  I had no  idea they were
 appearing!  I hope I've now found the right hack to suppress them. 
 
 If you would  like to  stop getting these  messages, or  if you  know
 someone who'd like to start getting them, please let me know. 
 
 Mike

∂04-FEB-75  0758		100,100: sgk @ SAIL
 Heave left your camera by the imlac.  I bought more film for you, and
 then proceeded to take nine shots...  Will get more eventually.  TNX
 Essay debugging is progressing despite E's efforts to drive me to the
 nut house.


∂03-FEB-75  1102		THE,AJT
 what do you know about the funny Schloss Laxenburg placein Vienna - can
 you give me some idea of th sorts of things that they're doing, and of 
 your own opinion of the place. thanks. arthur

∂03-FEB-75  0951		1,MG
 Subject:  **** FREE COFFEE AND COOKIES ****
 
 Today's meeting of the program reasoning group - in which J moore
 will discuss the new improved LISP theorem prover - will be at 
 3.30 in SRI's I building room s109 (the keidan room).
 
          ************************************
          * There will be  FREE refreshments *
          ************************************
 


∂02-FEB-75  1839		1,PMK AT TTY106   1839
 John,
 Would you have some time to talk with me tomorrow? I saw you when
 I came in tonight but you looked tied up, then you disappeared!
 
 I plan to be here most of tomorrow, so if you have some free
 time would you please let me know.
 
 Thanks, Peggy


∂31-JAN-75  1354		network site ISIA
 Date: 31 JAN 1975 1334-PST
 From: LICKLIDER at USC-ISIA
 Subject: Hieronymus
 To:   McCarthy at SU-AI
 cc:   Licklider
 
 	John, I do not know him well enough to be helpful.
 He seemed bright and interesting when he was here for a short visit,
 but I did not get enough of a fix on him to be sure whether I'd
 want to hire him, myself, or urge you to keep him
 hired.
 
 	My consideration of your proposal was interrupted by
 paperwork requirements levied by the new Director and by
 the need to get out several Memos Requesting ARPA Orders before
 COB today.  I'll get back at it shortly.  I'll have to ask for
 considerable sharpening of the objective structure; it now reads
 as though there are a lot of miscellaneous objectives to be reached
 in a year or two, but that it is not clear what roads they are on,
 what major goals they are subordinate to.  Also, I'll have to ask for
 a major reconsideration of the equipment section, which sounds as though
 it is heading for another ideosyncratic system.  (I have an idea
 about how to handle that, but I can't describe it now.)  Sorry to 
 have to noodle about on the proposal.  Al Blue got us an extension
 to cover the time required for noodling without losing the money.
 But we'll have to work pretty fast.  I assume I should communicate
 with LES -- with carbons to you?
 
 				Regards
 
 				Lick
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