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∂04-MAR-75 0957 ACT,REG
Yes, I saw your comments to Les. I believe the revised proposal
incorporates most, if not all, of your suggestions. There are still a
couple of things I'd like to improve. Lick says essentially that ARPA
doesn't want to spend any money on operating systems "unless the need is
specific and thoroughly justified." I believe we've made a case for the
display work, because Lick himself already believes in it to some extent.
I feel the file system thing is a little shakey. I'd like to firm it up
by adding more arguments in its favor (I've already added examples of
why the present schemes are inadequate and that some of the MULTICS work
is relevant so we don't have to reinvent things) but I feel there's a
lack of conviction that the proposal is "thoroughly justified."
∂03-MAR-75 2044 ACT,REG
A draft of the revised proposal is PROP75.A[DOC,REG]. I welcome your comments.
∂03-MAR-75 1942 1,BH
In RCV, typing "C ?" or "T ?" to an option request will tell you the name
of the current output file and allow you to specify another.
∂3-MAR-75 1154 network site AI
Date: 3 MAR 1975 1457-EST
From: PHW at MIT-AI
To: jmc at SU-AI, les at SU-AI, minsky at MIT-AI
Hi,
I have not received your vote for the C&T lecture and I need them
desparately. Could you please rank the following and return via
the net immediately.
bobrow
buchanan
clowes
fikes
goldstein
green
hayes
papert
reddy
reiger
sacerdoti
sandewall
schank
siklossy
sussman
wegbreit
wilks
woods
∂03-MAR-75 0956 1,MG
Subject: Richard Waldinger talks at PARC today.
The meeting is at Xerox PARC today at 3:30 p.m. Richard will talk
about his recent work on achieving several goals simultaneously.
Mike.
P.S. We still need a volunteer for next time.
∂28-FEB-75 1119 S,WD
The proposal is LISP.PRO[WD,JMC]. I believe Patte will have left a
copy on you desk.
∂27-FEB-75 1146 L,FWH
Subject: What Richard will talk about at next discussion group meeting.
At the next meeting (3:30 on 3 mar. at PARC) Richard Waldinger will
describe his recent work on how to achieve several goals
simultaneously. He'll illustrate his methods by showing how they can
be used to generate a program for interchanging the values of two
variables.
MG
∂1-MAR-75 1711 network site SRI
Date: 1 MAR 1975 1718-PDT
From: BOYER at SRI-AI
Subject: AI FORUM - Delegate safety at IJCAI4
To: sigart at CMU-10B
cc: erik at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI
IJCAI4
FROM: Vesko Marinov
IMSSS, Stanford University March 1, 1975
Stanford, CA94304
The safety of the delegates to an international scientific
conference is, in my opinion, essential for the normal conduct of the
conference. Furthermore it is important for the success of a
conference that anybody qualified and wishing to attend should feel free
to do so.
I welcome the choice of Tbilisi as the site of IJCAI4, but only
under the condition that all prospective delegates should feel safe
to attend. However, there are reasons to believe that the safety of
some delegates, particularly those of East European origin, may be
jeopardized by going to Tbilisi.
Therefore I suggest that the organizing committee, including
the Soviet organizers, coordinate opinions with the Soviet authorities
and issue an oficial statement guaranteeing the safe attendance of
all delegates. I appeal for the support of the AI community in obtaining
such a guarantee.
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∂01-MAR-75 1706 REP,DEW
There's a finished copy of my paper on your desk. Please throw the old
one away as soon as possible since it had some errors in it thathave been corrented
. Also the last example is the most instructive one. I would like
suggestions again on what to do next. Dave
∂01-MAR-75 1320 1,ELF
I AM NOW TO DAMN SCARED TO TALK TO YOU AND IM GETTING SICK OF IT
∂28-FEB-75 1659 2,JH
My contribution to expanding news75.pro is on [2,jh]. The expanded parts
are mostly on the area of man-machine interaction. Jim
∂28-FEB-75 0615 network site ISI
Date: 28 FEB 1975 0614-PDT
From: CARLSTROM at USC-ISI
Subject: IU WORKSHOP
To: JMC at SU-AI
cc: CARLSTROM
THANKS FOR YOUR NOTE. I'VE TALKED WITH BINFOORD ON THE PHONE AND
I THINK EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE.
REGARDS,
DAVE C.
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∂27-FEB-75 1537 PNT,DCL
YES-MARCH 11 AND 13 ARE FINE. WHAT IS THE ROOM NO. OF YOUR CLASS?
∂27-FEB-75 0808 E,ALS
The trouble is with the MAIL-E interface in that MAIL does not pass on to E
the information that E needs. I Will look into it however and see if I can
get it fixed. ALS
∂26-FEB-75 1355 1,MG
Subject: Next meeting of discussion group
The next meeting, at which Richard Waldinger will talk, is on monday
3 march at 3:30 p.m.in PARC.
After that we run out of volunteers. Would anyone like to describe
what they have been up to lately or what their current problems
and/or unimplemented future plans are?
Mike
∂26-FEB-75 1337 THE,AJT
since you appear to be leaving on the 7th., it is essential
that you let me know whether you can make it to my committee
meeting on Wed. 6th. provisionally at 2:00. please let me know
a.
∂25-FEB-75 1631 NS,ME
I looked at the proposal again but have no suggestions.
I'll be gone till Friday night.
∂24-FEB-75 1515 THE,AJT
Hintikka can't come(aaarrrgh!) to the Thursday meeting. Other possible
times are: any day next week in the morning, or between 2 and 4. Let me
know a possibility list and I'll try to achieve a magical correlation with
other people's.
sorry about all this... arthur.
∂24-FEB-75 1211 1,QIB
TENTATIVE: A.I. SCIENCE LUNCHEON WITH LEDERBERG, FACULTY CLUB, 12:00,
MARCH 10 - MAY I CONFIRM?
∂24-FEB-75 1206 1,QIB
REMINDER: TAXI WILL PICK YOU UP AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE FACULTY
CLUB AT 1:00 TO TAKE YOU TO THE AIRPORT - 2-25 (TUESDAY).
PROF. FEIGENBAUM NEEDS A COPY OF THE LETTER ON THE ARPA PRINCIPLE
INVESTIGATORS MEETING IN MARCH.
∂24-FEB-75 1152 VCG,DCL
Were we supposed to meet today (Mon. Feb-24) to continue?
␈ CC: JMC;TOB;RWW;TW;DCL
∂23-FEB-75 2224 1,DBX
I have put a copy of my write-up on recursion to your desk. I hope it
is more or less correct now. We are going to discuss it with Richard
and Bill to-morrow and I hope we can talk on Friday, which will be my
last day here.
∂23-FEB-75 0055 S,LES
It is now Sunday Morning and I still have not received any contributions
for the ARPA PI Meeting Summary, except for one written by Brian McCune
on behalf of Cordell. I should be pissed off, but it is hard to get
worked up when this kind of performance has become standard.
I have hacked something together in ARPAPI.75 [D,LES]. It is mainly the
list of bullets that I compiled several months ago. Perhaps if you show
it to them they will be moved to write something more up-to-date.
According to the Meeting Announcement, we were supposed to send it to
FEINLER @ NIC by last Thursday. Hopefully, it will happen early this
week.
I will try to check in by phone on Tuesday, or sooner if there is a
phone at the place where we are staying.
∂21-FEB-75 1811 network site SRI
Date: 21 FEB 1975 1811-PST
From: BOYER at SRI-AI
Subject: scientism
To: jmc at SU-AI
I wonder if there is still a plan for a meeting tonight at
your house on the subject of a bay area scientism club.
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∂11-FEB-75 1225 1,MG
John Darlington (a collegue of Rod Burstall who's at present visiting
IBM Yorktown Heights) would like to visit Stanford and SRI in a few
months time. Richard Waldinger tells me that SRI can only offer $150
and as this won't cover the cost was wondering whether Stanford had
any money available which could be combined with the above to produce
a reasonable sum.
Mike.
∂08-FEB-75 1719 1,SGK
Call David McQueen 513-8787295 office 255-3098. Feferman has folder.
∂11-FEB-75 1231 network site ISIA
Date: 11 FEB 1975 1229-PST
From: NBS at USC-ISIA
Subject: TIMESHARING COOP
To: JMC at SU-AI
cc: NBS
DEAR DR. MCCARTHY,
IREAD A COPY OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TIMESHARING COOP,
AND IT SOUNDS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. THEREFORE I WOULD
BE WILLING TO AND INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT IT WITH
OTHER PEOPLE, AND IN HELPING TO SET IT UP.
I AM AN UNDERGRAD AT STANFORD, AND HAVE A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND
IN COMPUTING.
I CAN BE REACHED VIA THE FOLLOWING:
ARPA-NET NBS@ISI (PLEASE START MESSAGE WITH "FOR ED FRANK"
SLAC-TRIPLEX SUGGEST TO EHF$EA
UNCLE SAM
LETTER SINK ED FRANK
P.O BOX 2008
STANFORD, CA
MA BELL 415-321-6143
SINCERELY,
ED FRANK
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∂11-FEB-75 1407 DOC,TOB
There are two positive contributions by
Don Gennery. As a course project, he made
a search for calibration solution that was
successful, where Hannah had been unsuccessful
before. At SRI, he made a horizontal
rectangle bounder; JMT's opinion is that he
did a good job. That he had good ideas, was
competent and a good executor, hard worker.
Along the lines of Perkins, not a deep thinker
but reasonable and competent.
There is of course the negative information
about not working his first year here.
Tom
∂08-FEB-75 0139 100,100: sgk @ SAIL
Have invited Schroeppel & c. to stay here the nite of the 22nd. Say if OK soon pls.
∂05-FEB-75 1503 100,100: S/WD @ SAIL
I don't know if you found the note. Telco was here about the phone problem
while you were away and claims that you need an interface for you Phonemate.
∂05-FEB-75 1415 1,ELF
READ MADMAD.MAD LAST PART[1,ELF]
∂05-FEB-75 1132 1,MG
Subject: Change of time or place of meeting.
I've just discovered that the conference room at SU-AI is booked
every monday between 4:15 and 5:15. Thus either the time or place of
the next meeting of the program reasoning group must be changed. I
propose that it be moved to tuesday 18 feb. (the day after it was to
be). Please let me know if this is O.K. If it isn't maybe we could
still have the meeting on monday but at SRI or PARC?
I'll confirm the new time and place in a day or so.
Sorry about this. Mike
∂04-FEB-75 1202 P,JRA
cs206?
∂04-FEB-75 1137 1,MG
Subject: Future meetings of Program Reasoning Group.
The next meeting is in the conference room at Stanford A.I. Lab. at
3.30 p.m. on mon. 17 feb. Balint Domolki (who's visiting the A.I.
Lab. from Hungary) will talk.
The meeting following that will be at Xerox PARC at 3.30 p.m. on mon.
3 march. Richard Waldinger will talk.
The debate described in previous messages (which was conceived of by
Bob. Boyer) is to be organanised by Richard Waldinger. Further
suggestions concerning it should be sent to Richard at SRI.
Sorry about the vast list of names that non-SU-AI people have been
getting at the top of previous messages - I had no idea they were
appearing! I hope I've now found the right hack to suppress them.
If you would like to stop getting these messages, or if you know
someone who'd like to start getting them, please let me know.
Mike
∂04-FEB-75 0758 100,100: sgk @ SAIL
Heave left your camera by the imlac. I bought more film for you, and
then proceeded to take nine shots... Will get more eventually. TNX
Essay debugging is progressing despite E's efforts to drive me to the
nut house.
∂03-FEB-75 1102 THE,AJT
what do you know about the funny Schloss Laxenburg placein Vienna - can
you give me some idea of th sorts of things that they're doing, and of
your own opinion of the place. thanks. arthur
∂03-FEB-75 0951 1,MG
Subject: **** FREE COFFEE AND COOKIES ****
Today's meeting of the program reasoning group - in which J moore
will discuss the new improved LISP theorem prover - will be at
3.30 in SRI's I building room s109 (the keidan room).
************************************
* There will be FREE refreshments *
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∂02-FEB-75 1839 1,PMK AT TTY106 1839
John,
Would you have some time to talk with me tomorrow? I saw you when
I came in tonight but you looked tied up, then you disappeared!
I plan to be here most of tomorrow, so if you have some free
time would you please let me know.
Thanks, Peggy
∂31-JAN-75 1354 network site ISIA
Date: 31 JAN 1975 1334-PST
From: LICKLIDER at USC-ISIA
Subject: Hieronymus
To: McCarthy at SU-AI
cc: Licklider
John, I do not know him well enough to be helpful.
He seemed bright and interesting when he was here for a short visit,
but I did not get enough of a fix on him to be sure whether I'd
want to hire him, myself, or urge you to keep him
hired.
My consideration of your proposal was interrupted by
paperwork requirements levied by the new Director and by
the need to get out several Memos Requesting ARPA Orders before
COB today. I'll get back at it shortly. I'll have to ask for
considerable sharpening of the objective structure; it now reads
as though there are a lot of miscellaneous objectives to be reached
in a year or two, but that it is not clear what roads they are on,
what major goals they are subordinate to. Also, I'll have to ask for
a major reconsideration of the equipment section, which sounds as though
it is heading for another ideosyncratic system. (I have an idea
about how to handle that, but I can't describe it now.) Sorry to
have to noodle about on the proposal. Al Blue got us an extension
to cover the time required for noodling without losing the money.
But we'll have to work pretty fast. I assume I should communicate
with LES -- with carbons to you?
Regards
Lick
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